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duminică, 19 aprilie 2015

Van-ul amenajat


Continui clasificarea RV-urilor, inceputa cu ceva timp in urma... (Remorca cort), (Rulota clasica)

Carrying with the classification of the RVs that I began a while ago... (Trailer tent), (Caravan)

Van-ul amenajat a aparut odata cu dorinta de a petrece timpul liber prin acoperirea unor distante considerabil mai mari intr-un timp mai scurt decat permite vacanta cu rulota, cu cheltuieli minime si pastrand acelasi standard de confort interior. Ideea a fost de a transforma un vehicul gata existent intr-un vehicul nou cu o alta functie decat cea pentru care fusese proiectat initial. Primele van-uri amenajate au fost simple dube de transport marfa sau de transport persoane, carora li s-a atasat mobilier, instalatie de gaz, instalatie electrica si de apa, astfel incat sa permita atat calatoria in conditii de siguranta si viteza, cat si posibilitatea de odihna in locuri neamenajate pentru campare (parcari pe autostrazi de exemplu).

The converted van came to light when the desire to spend free time travelling far distances in a shorter period of time, with minimum expenses and keeping the same standard of interior comfort emerged. The intention was to transform an already made vehicle into another vehicle for another use than the one for which it was initially designed. The first converted vans were simple vans designed to carry people or cargo in which furniture, gas, electrical and water installation were added so it could allow travelling with safety as well as with speed and also resting in not proper camping sites (motorway parking areas for instance).

Primele van-uri amenajate au fost realizate astfel incat sa corespunda necesitatilor particulare ale clientilor. Caroseria ramanea aceeasi, singurele modificari fiind facute in interiorul masinii. Daca vehiculul original era destinat transportului de persoane, transformarea tinea cont de multimea de geamuri existente. Daca vehiculul original era destinat transportului de marfa, atunci se amenaja un spatiu destinat cu prioritate dormitului.

The first converted vans were made to correspond to the specific needs of the customers. The body of the van remained the same while all the alterations were made inside the vehicle. If the original vehicle was destined to carry people, then the conversion would depend on the number of windows that already exist. If the initial vehicle was a cargo van, then a place specially designed for sleep was made.

Evolutia in timp a dorintelor si necesitatilor de confort ale proprietarilor a condus la modificari inclusiv structurale. Astfel, caroseria dubei de marfa a fost decupata pentru a face loc ferestrelor, grilelor de aerisire, trapelor de ventilatie, prizelor exterioare si altor dispozitive necesare. Asa arata un van amenajat de colegii nostri de la Reimo, Germania:

The evolution of comfort needs and requirements from the customers led also to structural changes. Thus, the body of the cargo van has been cut to make room for windows, ventilation grids, roof vents, exterior sockets or anything else needed. This is how a converted van made by our colleagues from Reimo, Germany, looks like:

Sursa: www.reimo.com
In interior, van-ul amenajat arata excelent:

Inside it looks excellent:

Sursa: www.reimo.com

 Ca si la rulote, latimea si inaltimea sunt relativ identice de la un model la altul, variabila fiind lungimea caroseriei. Astfel, cele mai mici van-uri amenajate au lungimea totala de circa 5 m, iar cele mai lungi pot ajunge la o lungime de 6,5 m sau chiar in unele cazuri de 7 m. O lungime mare a caroseriei, chiar daca ofera spatiu interior ceva mai generos, are insa dezavantajul de a lungi cumva nefiresc masina, ceea ce o face sensibila la denivelari, treceri de cale ferata, sine de tramvai, bumper-e pentru micsorarea vitezei, borduri etc. Cu cat lungimea partii din spate este mai mare, cu atat mai restranse sunt posibilitatile de a face fata la alte suprafete de drum in afara soselelor asfaltate. adaugat despre “coada” prea lunga...

Just like with caravans, the width and the height are almost identical from one model to another, while its length varies depending on the body of the van used. This is how the smallest converted vans are 5 m long, while the longest ones can reach a length of 6,5 m or even 7 m. A big length of the body, even if it offers a slightly more generous interior space, has the disadvantage of lengthening the car in a somehow unnatural way, which exposes it on bumps in the road, rail road passings, tramway tracks, speed bumpers, street borders, etc. The more the length of the back is bigger, the more the chances of coping with diverse road surfaces decrease.

Masa maxima autorizata este in general de 3500 kg, pentru a permite conducerea de catre soferii care au carnet de conducere categoria B. Odata cu aparitia vehiculelor comerciale mici, cum ar fi Ford Tourneo Connect, VW Caddy, Peugeot Partner, Renault Kangoo, au aparut si amenajari ale acestor vehicule. Cu toate acestea, datorita spatiului interior redus, aceste autovehicule nu sunt considerate de multi a fi van-uri amenjate. Eu le mentionez deoarece exista, sunt un segment de nisa si trebuie mentionate.

The Maximum Allowed Mass is usually of 3500 kg to allow the vans to be driven by drivers with B-category drivers’ licence. Once the small commercial vehicles such as Ford Turneo Connect, VW Caddy, Peugeot Partner, Renault Kangoo appeared, conversions for these vehicles also appeared. Even so, due to the small space inside, many don’t consider these vehicles to be converted vans. I mention them because they exist, they belong to a narrow market segment and they have to be mentioned.

Cum rulotele au cort, complet sau doar partial, van-urile au parasolarul retractabil, cu sau fara pereti laterali si perete frontal. Se monteaza pe laterala dreapta a acoperisului, asa cum vedeti in imaginea de mai jos:

As the caravans have tents, either full or partial ones, the converted vans have a retractable sun visor, with or without side walls and front wall. They are mounted on the right side of the roof, as you can see below:

Sursa: www.sprinterstore.com

Exista cativa producatori de kituri de conversie a van-urilor, ale caror produse sunt specifice fiecarui tip de vehicul de baza, ba mai mult, exista kituri specifice pentru diferite ampatamente ale van-ului de origine. Accesoriile sunt in general cele specifice rulotelor, insa datorita particularitatilor constructive de forma, exista seturi de adaptare pentru fiecare model de masina in parte. Adica se poate monta acelasi parasolar retractabil pe mai multe tipuri de masina numai folosind kitul de montaj specific tipului respectiv de masina.

There are a few conversion kits manufacturers,whose products are specific to each type of basic vehicle and even more, there are conversion kits specific to different wheel bases. Usually the accessories are the ones specific to caravans, but due to the particularities of the shape constructions, kits to adapt for each model of car are available. Meaning that you can install the same sun visor using the mounting kit for the exact car model.

In ultima perioada, ca vehicul de baza s-a impus tripleta Fiat Ducato/Citroen Jumper/Peugeot Boxer, in principal datorita pretului de achizitie accesibil, precum si datorita dimensiunilor interioare generoase pe care le ofera.

Lately, as a basic vehicle we usually see Fiat Ducato, Citroen Jumper or Peugeot Boxer, mainly due to the accessible acquisition price as well as the generous interior spaces they have to offer.

In Romania, Registrul Auto Roman (R.A.R.) precizeaza ca modificarile structurale ale vehiculelor de transport marfa / persoane se pot face numai de catre firme autorizate in acest sens (firmele autorizate de carosari auto). Asta daca proiectul presupune decuparea panourilor pentru montarea ferestrelor si, eventual, montarea unui al doilea rand de banchete pentru pasagerii suplimentari. Daca proiectul nu include modificari structurale, atunci nu este necesara vizita la un carosier.

In Romania, the Romanian Road Authority (R.A.R.) states that any structural alterations made to cargo or people vans can only be made by companies properly authorised. This if the project includes cutting the side panels and, probably, installing a second round of seats for suplimentary passengers. If the project does not include any structural alterations, then you don’t have to visit a body-work mechanic.

Am contribuit la conversia catorva van-uri de-a lungul anilor si pot spune ca rezultatele au fost diferite de la caz la caz, in functie de dorintele fiecarui proprietar. Pentru proiecte de conversie ma puteti cauta oricand, caci imi face placere sa ma implic in proiecte noi si imi plac provocarile. Intr-un capitol urmator va voi dezvalui la ce proiect personal visez, cand am timp sa visez ;-).

Over the years I have taken part in a few van conversions and I may say that the results were different from project to another, depending on the requests from each owner. I like new projects and I am opened to new challenges, so feel free to reach me for any conversion project. In a future chapter I shall tell you about the project I am dreaming of, that is when I have time to dream ;-).

Va urma... 

To be continued...


miercuri, 25 februarie 2015

Rulota sau autorulota?

Multa lume ma intreaba destul de des: ce sa imi cumpar, o rulota sau o autorulota?

 A lot of people ask me frequently: what should I buy, a caravan or a motorhome?

Si primul raspuns care imi vine sa-l dau este: depinde. Chiar daca la prima vedere pare un raspuns evaziv, este foarte mult adevar in el. Pentru ca fiecare vehicul recreational are avantaje si dezavantaje. Odata ce stii care sunt avantajele sau dezavantajele, poti decide ce ti se potriveste.

And the answer I initially tend to give is: it depends. Even though at first glance it would like an evasive answer, a lot of truth lies in it because every recreational vehicle has its ups and downs. Once you know them, you may decide what fits you best.

As incepe cu o scurta prezentare a fiecarei grupe de vehicule recreationale (RV = Recreational Vehicle) pentru a putea apoi discuta despre avantajele si dezavantajele fiecaruia.

I would like to begin with a shirt presentation of each group of RV's (RV = recreational vehicle), so we could later discuss about each of their advantages and disadvantages.
 
1. Rulota este un vehicul tractat, ca o cutie pe roti, prevazut cu una sau doua punti si un protap cu un sistem de cuplare la autovehiculul tractor.

1. A caravan is a towed vehicle, a sort of a box on wheels, having one or two axles and an A-frame with a coupling device to the towing vehicle.

Sursa: arhiva personala
Dimensiunile variaza destul de mult, pornind de la 3.00 m si mergand pana la 7.50 m sau chiar 8.00 m lungimea cutiei. Latimea se incadreaza intre 2.00 m si 2.50 m, cele mai intalnite fiind rulotele cu latimea de circa 2.10 m. Inaltimea rulotelor se incadreaza in limitele 2.30 - 2.50 m. Greutatea unei rulote variaza foarte mult, in functie de dimensiunile cutiei si de echipamentele instalate. Astfel, masa maxima autorizata (MMA) poate varia intre 750 kg si 2000 kg sau, in cazul rulotelor foarte mari, chiar mai mult.

Dimension vary quite a lot, from 3 meters up to 7.50 or even 8 meters length for the box. The width is between 2 and 2.50 meters, most caravans being 2.10 meters wide. The height is between 2.30 and 2.50 meters. The weight of a caravan varies a lot depending on the dimensions of the box and the equipments installed. Therefore, the maximum authorized mass (MAM) may vary between 750 kg and 2000 kg or even more for longer caravans.

2. Van-ul amenajat este un autovehicul de transport marfa care a fost transformat intr-un RV prin instalarea tuturor sistemelor, instalatiilor si mobilierului existent intr-o rulota, fara modificarea caroseriei. Prin decuparea unor elemente nestructurale ale caroseriei se creeaza spatiile necesare pentru montarea geamurilor, a busoanelor de alimentare sau de golire, a grilelor si a altor accesorii necesare.

2. A converted van is a light commercial vehicle transformed in a recreational vehicle by installing all the systems and furniture that you can find in a caravan, without altering the body of the vehicle. By cutting away nonstructural elements of the body you can create the needed gaps for windows, feeding or emptying points, ventilation grids and other necessary accessories.

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Spre deosebire de rulote, van-urile sunt cam de aceeasi latime si inaltime (din motive de standardizare a liniei de productie), diferenta cea mai mare fiind lungimea si MMA. Deoarece majoritatea soferilor sunt posesori ai unui carnet de conducere de categoria B, majoritatea van-urilor amenajate au MMA = 3500 kg.

Unlike the caravans, the converted vans have almost the same widths and heights (due to the standardization of the production line), the differences being made by lengths and MAM. Since most drivers own a B category driving licence, most converted vans have the MAM = 3500 kg.

3. Autorulota (sau camper-ul, cum mai este el cunoscut in Romania si in alte tari) reprezinta un RV, autopropulsat ca si van-ul amenajat, insa cu o suprastructura specifica, asemanatoare unei rulote.

3. The motorhome (also known in Romania and other countries as "camper") is a self-propelled RV, just like the converted van, but having a specially designed caravan-like structure.

www.caravansinternational.it
Si la autorulote, latimea si inaltimea sunt relativ standardizate, diferenta fiind data de lungimea totala si MMA. Exista diferite autovehicule de baza, insa in ultimii ani cea mai mare pondere o are platforma comuna Citroen/Fiat/Peugeot, cu modelele Jumper/Ducato/Partner. Autorulote se fabrica si pe structura Ford, Mercedes, Renault sau Iveco, insa in numar mult mai mic.

In motorhomes, the width and the height are also standardized, the difference being made by the total length and its MAM. There are several basic vehicles, but lately the most used platform is the one of Citroen/Fiat/Peugeot with the Jumper/Ducato/Partner models. Motorhomes are also made on Ford, Mercedes, Renault or Iveco structures, but in smaller quantities.
 
Toate cele 3 categorii de RV au in interior dotarile necesare pentru locuit, cum ar fi de la 2 pana la 6 locuri de dormit, baie, bucatarie, spatii de depozitare si spatii tehnice. La exterior regasim in egala masura copertine retractabile, sisteme de transport pentru biciclete, sisteme de receptie TV, panouri fotovoltaice etc.


All three recreational vehicles categories have on the inside all the necessary living conditions, from two and up to six sleeping places, a bathroom, a kitchen and storage spaces.On the exterior, we find retractable awning, bicycle carrying systems, TV reception systems, solar panels, etc.

Spuneam la inceput ca fiecare grupa de RV-uri are avantaje si dezavantaje in utilizare. Acestea se pot dovedi un plus sau un minus la achizitionare. De aceea, pentru ca fiecare utilizator are propriile sale cerinte, voi spune ca inainte de achizitionarea unui RV este bine sa ne gandim cum il vom utiliza.

Like I said, every category of RVs has its own advantages and disadvatanges. These may influence our buying decision. Every family has its own travelling styles and this is why I believe that before acquiring an RV we must take evrything into consideration.

Suntem genul de familie care isi petrece concediul mergand intr-un singur loc, “baza” de unde plecam sa vizitam zona in excursii de cate o zi? Atunci cel mai potrivit RV este rulota, pe care o lasam in baza si ne deplasam cu masina in micile excursii planificate.


Are we the kind of family who spends its holiday going to one place, the “base”, from where we go and visit around in one-day trips? Then the most suitable RV is the caravan, which we’ll leave on the campsite and move around in our cars.

Suntem genul de familie care stam o zi intr-un loc, inca o zi in alt loc s.a.m.d.? Vizitam zona direct din masina? Atunci alegerea se va indrepta catre o autorulota, pentru mai multa mobilitate.

Are we the kind of family who spends a day in one place, another day in another place and so on? Do we visit directly from our cars? Then our RV of choice will be a more mobile one, the motorhome.


Suntem o familie cu doar doi membri care au multe weekend-uri libere si care iubesc sa hoinareasca pe drumuri forestiere, neamenajate si departe de lumea dezlantuita? Atunci cu siguranta RV-ul la care ma voi uita cu mai multa atentie este un van amenajat.

Are we a family of only two who have many free weekends and who love to wonder on country roads, far away form the wild world? Then the vehicle I will check out more carefull will definitely be the converted van.

Odata ales felul de RV care ni se potriveste, urmeaza un set de intrebari legate de dimensiunile RV-ului. Cate persoane vor folosi in mod curent acel RV? Cate persoane vor dormi noaptea in el si cate persoane vor calatori in el ziua (intrebarea este valabila doar pentru van-uri amenajate si pentru autorulote, deoarece in rulote NU se transporta persoane)? Ce dotari imi doresc? Am nevoie de sistem de receptie prin satelit, cu pozitionare automata? Am nevoie de sistem de aer conditionat independent sau alimentat de la reteaua electrica?


Once you have settled with your most suitable RV, the questions regarding its dimensions follow. How many persons will use that RV on a regular bases? How many persons will sleep in it and how many persons will travel inside it during the day (the latter part of this question is only available for converted vans and motorhomes, because people are NOT allowed to travel inside a caravan)? What specifications do I want? Do I need a satellite reception system, with an automatic positioning? Do I need an independent or main grid connected air conditioning system?


De asemenea, trebuie sa stiti foarte bine care este bugetul necesar pentru un RV cu dotarile dorite. De cele mai multe ori, primesc intrebari de genul urmator: “As vrea sa-mi cumpar o rulota fabricata dupa 2000, sa aiba boiler, sistem de receptie TV si sa coste maxim 2000 EUR. Ma puteti ajuta?”


Also, you must know very well the budget you will need for a recreational vehicle having the desired options. Most of the times, people ask me this: “I would like to buy a caravan manufactured after 2000, with a water boiler, TV reception system and of a maximum price of 2000 euros. Can you help me?”

De multe ori, cataloagele care contin tot ce am putea monta pe vehiculul nostru ne iau ochii si ne stimuleaza imaginatia. Realitatea bugetului disponibil insa ne aduce la o ajustare a dorintelor sau la o planificare a implinirii acestora in timp. Este cat se poate de adevarat ca, in final, mare parte din procesul de achizitie tine de arta compromisului: la ce renunt din ceea ce vroiam la inceput, in asa fel incat sa ma incadrez si in cerinte si in buget.


Many times, catalogs that contain everything we might install on our vehicle make our imagination run wild. But the reality of the available budget brings an adjustment of wishes or plan to fulfill them in time. It is true that in the end, a great part of the acquisition process is about the art of compromise: out of the things I want to buy, what will I let go of so I can fit in the budget and needs?


Spre exemplu, de-a lungul timpului am invatat sa nu fac nici un compromis la structura rulotei. Am achizitionat pentru unii clienti (si am consiliat multi alti clienti in vederea achizitionarii) rulote. La nici o rulota nu am acceptat compromisuri legate de structura acesteia, caci daca un frigider sau o soba pot fi reparate cu costuri modice, o reparatie structurala este foarte costisitoare, atat ca timp, cat si ca bani. Am reparat si repar structuri deteriorate cel mai adesea de infiltratiile de apa si am avut ocazia sa vad cat de mult rau poate face o infiltratie de apa intr-o structura de rulota sau autorulota.


To give you an example, throughout the years I’ve learned not to compromise when it comes to the structure of the caravan. I have bought for some clients caravan and I have given advice to many others regarding the acquisition of a caravan. I haven’t accepted any compromises for any caravan in regard to its structure, because while a refridgerator or a heating system may be repaired at moderate costs, a structural repair takes a lot of time and money. I have repaired and I still repair structures that have been deteriorated mostly by water infiltration and I have had the opportunity to see how much damage can a water infiltration do to a caravan or a motorhome.


Ganditi in avans la toate lucrurile care va vin in minte, oricat de ciudate vi s-ar parea. Cautati raspunsuri la cat mai multe din intrebari inainte de a cumpara rulota sau autorulota dorita. Nu va lasati fermecati de cuvintele vanzatorului, datoria lui este sa isi vanda produsul, insa banii sunt la voi in buzunar in aceasta faza. Cautati informatii, sfatuiti-va cu altii care au trecut deja prin acest proces de achizitie si care au deja experienta in utilizarea unui RV.


Think forward about everything that comes up in your mind, however weird they might seem. Look for answers to as many questions as possible before buying the RV you want. Don’t allow yourself to be charmed by the words of the seller, because his sole wish is to sell; for now, the money are still in your pocket. Look for information, ask for advise from others who have been through this buying process and who already know how to use a recreational vehicle.


Nu va feriti sa platiti o consultanta - ma puteti contacta oricand pentru asa ceva, suma fiind absolut modica- caci acei bani va pot scuti mai tarziu de multe batai de cap si de frustrari. A fost si a ramas dureros pentru mine sa fiu chemat la un proaspat posesor de RV si sa constat ca a fost inselat, ca a dat bani buni pe ceva mult supraevaluat, care acum necesita sume mari pentru a putea fi reparat; ii vad mereu bucuria si mandria cu care imi prezinta vehiculul si ma ustura sufletul sa-i arat ca a fost inselat... Uneori nici nu am puterea s-o fac, pur si simplu... Ii arat ce trebuie facut, cam cat dureaza, ce presupune reparatia si cat costa si il las sa inteleaga singur cat a fost pacalit la cumparare. Si evit sa-i privesc ochii, e prea multa dezamagire in ei.


Don’t refrain yourself from paying for a consulting session - you may always contact me for one, the cost of it being really moderate - because that humble amount of money may save you from many problems and frustrations later on. It always was and it still is painful for me to be called by a newly RV owner and see that he has been conned into paying a considerate amount of cash on something highly over evaluated, which now requires large sums of money for repairs; I always see the joy and pride with which they show me their vehicle and it brakes my heart to show them that they have been tricked... Sometimes I don’t even have the power to do it... I show them what needs to be done, how much time it would take to repair it, how much it costs and I let them decide to what extent he was fooled during purchase. I avoid looking in their eyes for there is too much disappointment that lies there.


In final va doresc sa ajungeti sa va bucurati de fiecare zi petrecuta cu cei dragi fie cu rulota, fie cu autorulota!


I wish you all end up enjoying every day you spend alongside your loved ones, either in a caravan, a converted van or a motorhome!


Sursa: arhiva personala